Mary Nicol Sylvester

Mary Nicol Sylvester

Female 1838 - 1922  (84 years)

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  • Name Mary Nicol Sylvester 
    Birth 1838  York, Upper Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Death 8 Aug 1922 
    Person ID I6434  Whisperspast | Archibald
    Last Modified 16 Oct 2023 

    Family 1 Hugh Thomson,   b. 21 Sep 1834, Scarborough,York Co.,Ontario Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1870 (Age 35 years) 
    Marriage 1857 
    Children 
     1. Herbert Thomson,   b. 5 Feb 1867, Scarborough,York Co.,Upper Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 12 Jul 1930, Toronto, Ontario Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 63 years)
     2. Arthur Wellseley Thomson,   b. 7 Mar 1858, Scarborough,York Co.,Upper Canada Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. George Edgar Thomson,   b. 1 Nov 1863, Scarborough,York Co.,Upper Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 8 Aug 1922, Bowmanville, Ontario Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 58 years)
    Family ID F2191  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 20 Feb 2023 

    Family 2 William Pethick,   b. 1848   d. Aft 1881 (Age > 34 years) 
    Notes 
    • "Canada, Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMJ9-ZJ4), Mary Pethick in entry for W E Pethick and Mary Thomson, 08 Jan 1877; citing registration , Markham, York, Ontario, Canada
    Children 
     1. C.F. Pethick,   b. 1871
     2. Ada M Pethick,   b. 1873
     3. Fred W Pethick,   b. 1877
     4. Harold G Pethick,   b. 1879
    Family ID F2484  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 16 Oct 2023 

  • Notes 
    • I have had recent contact from Frank Daniel Andrew Sylvester a descendant of David Thomson/Mary Glendinning. He has sent me a few bits and pieces, but I am still sorting it out as it is somewhat confusing. He has concentrated on the Sylvester lines and what seems to be emerging is that Lord Thomson's grandmother Mary Nichol Sylvester, wife of Hugh Thomson, was not the daughter of the Richard Sylvester who married Mary Ann Thomson, but the daughter of a different Richard Sylvester (cousin of the other one). This would explain a problem I had with the "Forefolk of Lord Thomson" book. It said Mary Nichol Sylvester's father, Richard, died in 1845, but from other sources it seemed that Richard Sylvester and Mary Ann Thomson continued to have children long after that, and Richard died in 1876. Of course if they are different people then this is OK. It just means the statement in the Lord T book that Mary Nichol Sylvester's mother was a "Thomson of David Thomson's line" (p47) is probably not right, the writer probably assuming that the above two Richard Sylvester were one and the same person. Of course maybe she was descended via a different branch of the David Thomson line, but probably not. So my conclusion is that Lord Thomson is only descended via his direct Thomson line back to David's brother Archibald and has no Glendinning blood in him.
      -- Ian Glendinning, 17 Oct 2005

      On the Lord Thomson ancestry, I have been told that Lord T's grandmother Mary Nichol Sylvester was the daughter of a different Richard Sylvester than suggested in the Lord T Book. Her father Richard and the Richard who married Mary Ann Thomson (granddaughter of David Thomson and Mary Glendinning) were full cousins. That being the case Mary Nichol Sylvester does not have any Thomson or Glendinning blood in her as far as we know, though her mother is unknown other than being "Mary". I suppose her record of death in 1922 would tell who her mother was. I've attached the early Sylvester generations for you to see. So Lord T does not descend from 2 branches of the Thomson line or from the Glendinning, but only by direct decent from Archibald Thomson (David's brother) and Elizabeth McKay, and thence back up the Thomson line. All this, plus more besides, came from Frank Daniel Andrew Sylvester a great-grandson of Richard Sylvester and Mary Ann Thomson, so I have assumed he is more likely correct.
      -- Ian Glendinng, 9 Apr 2006


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